Awkward, wonderful interview with an actor who hates to be interviewed:

PHOENIX: If I was driving and I heard this, I’d be – I’d change the channel.

GROSS: I wouldn’t.

PHOENIX: I’d be like, why – can you shut up?

GROSS: Really? Does it bother you like that?

PHOENIX: No. I mean, I don’t know, sometimes I just, you know, I just think, who cares?

GROSS: We, who love movies, care. Does that help answer the question?

PHOENIX: OK.